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EdH

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Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Sep 28, 2007 2:53 PM
 
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I got an ES-750 to protect my entertainment system. There are two Tivo's on it and the battery backup feature for preventing those long reboots Tivo's do for a minor power fluctuation.

I don't want the UPS to tell me when power has been lost though. I want it silent, no beeping. Is there any way to do this without installing software on a computer and hooking it up? I really don't want to go through the hassle of installing software and drivers. I am a bit amazed there is no "silent" switch.
dirtfoot


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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Oct 1, 2007 9:21 AM   in response to: EdH in response to: EdH
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There is no hardware silencing switch on your UPS. That capability is only available through the PowerChute Personal Edition software that was included with the UPS.
EdH

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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Oct 4, 2007 12:57 PM   in response to: dirtfoot in response to: dirtfoot
 
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Thanks. That is so lame. I'll keep that in mind when I buy my next UPS. It won't be APC if the default is "annoying beep on, and you must install our software on your PC even if the UPS isn't for a PC"

I am very tempted to take this one back because of it in fact.
NetMax

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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Oct 4, 2007 3:45 PM   in response to: EdH in response to: EdH
 
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Actually, I find this feature to be very nice. Alerts me when the power is lost, etc. It's wonderful. You get what you pay for, invest on a smartUPS. I believe the alarms can be silenced.
InRowRCena


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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Oct 4, 2007 4:12 PM   in response to: EdH in response to: EdH
 
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Once you store the silenced alarm setting within Powerchute, it stores it within the UPS. So if you have a pc, install PowerCHute, disable the alarm notification sounds, and proceed with using the UPS as you intended with your entertainment system.
EdH

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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Oct 7, 2007 6:47 PM   in response to: NetMax in response to: NetMax
 
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Why would anyone care at 2am that the power goes out for 10 minutes in their home? Who wants to be woken up to that? I think it is a fine option, but to turn it on by default for a consumer that essentially forces them to install their advertising onto their computer and hook it up just to turn that feature off is ridiculious.
The Notorious K...


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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 12:18 PM   in response to: EdH in response to: EdH
 
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Ed,

I understand your concern with not wanting to be woken up at 2am to be alerted that power has gone out in your residence. I use the software at home to disable the audible tone as well, however, I think taking a look at it from a different approach may be ideal. Is the UPS your source of power for your alarm clock in the morning? What would occur if you were to have to wake up at a specific time during the week, and your alarm clock, which is not powered by your UPS, powers off due to a blackout, even if it is momentary? I think it would be ideal in this scenario that the UPS wakes you to notify you of a power failure. That would allow you to possibly find an alternate source of power for the alarm clock, or, if power is to be restored within a reasonable period of time, to reset your clock so that you wake up on time.
Secret Squirrel


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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Oct 17, 2007 1:07 PM   in response to: EdH in response to: EdH
 
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Thanks. That is so lame. I'll keep that in mind when I buy my next UPS. It won't be APC if the default is "annoying beep on, and you must install our software on your PC even if the UPS isn't for a PC"

I am very tempted to take this one back because of it in fact.

I can definitely see where the beeping from the UPS would be distracting, especially when your watching TV. The ES-750, however is not design for use with AV equipment. It's purpose is battery back up for home computers. If you were purchasing a device for your AV equipment, you may have wanted to purchase an AV UPS.

AV UPS come with the beeper disabled by default.

barrytoddhammond

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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 11:01 AM   in response to: Secret Squirrel in response to: Secret Squirrel
 
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Yeah. Instead of $50 on a PC one, you should have spent $500 to $1500 to get an AV one so it doesn't beep.

Don't be tricked into the trap of using the PC to try to "fix it" when it does start beeping in the middle of the night either. I've got the software installed on my laptop and had some noise or some overvoltage thing going on at 2 AM one night cause the power is still on and nothing else in the house . The UPS wakes me up. I then hook up my laptop to try to "fix it", then it shuts down my laptop because the software assumes that the UPS is protecting the PC on which it is installed, so it takes me 3 reboots to finally get the PC to stay on long enough to change my sensitivity settings so the situation will not keep happening. In the meantime i had to power cycle the UPS and hence my DVR a couple of times to get it to stop beeping. Preventing hard power cycling of the DVR is why I bought this thing in the first place and it has hard cycled more than anything else in the house so far.

It would be really nice to tell the UPS that the computer is being used only to manage the UPS and doesn't need to be shut down.
The Notorious K...


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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Oct 19, 2007 3:36 PM   in response to: barrytoddhammond in response to: barrytoddhammond
 
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Barry,

I would like to reiterate the Squirrel's comment about the beeper being inactive, since you are using the UPS as a power source for your DVR. Please keep in mind that the A/V UPS systems are not intended to be used in unison with PowerChute software, and therefore, makes no assumption that any attached equipment is being controlled by software. When you power your notebook on, whether the UPS is a physical power source for the notebook or not, the PowerChute software will assume that since there is a communication source of a UPS, that the power source is the exact same UPS, and will prevent the system from having any data loss by doing the graceful shutdown.
barrytoddhammond

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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Oct 22, 2007 6:27 PM   in response to: The Notorious K... in response to: The Notorious K...
 
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I certainly don't mind installing software on my PC to manage this UPS and didn't consider it advertising. I bought it to keep power on my DVR and do not want the extra features of an AV UPS that cost tons of extra money. I like that I can control and configure it with my PC. The cost of the AV centric models are about 10x to PC centric models, so this is almost perfect for me. I just wanted a battery backup.

I just want the software to have the option to not shut down the PC that is connected to it. I know it does not have such an option now. It really works great except that kept shutting down my pc one night when it thought there was a power failure when I had the settings set to stringent (I had either noise or an overvoltage problem, the power was still on). All I wanted to do was reset the settings, turn off the beeping, and go back to bed. It took an hour because my PC got shut down 3 times before I could get it to change the settings. A simple "don't shut down my pc, it is an independently powered laptop" option would be great. The last thing I wanted to do was power cycle the things connected to the UPS, which I ended up doing due it taking so long to change the settings and the UPS battery ran down to 0.
Mark

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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Feb 10, 2008 11:37 AM   in response to: EdH in response to: EdH
 
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Same problem, ES725. No way am I putting any software I don't need on my 'puter. I just want a UPS that doesn't rattle my eardrums every time the power browns out for a few milliseconds. If I'm awake, and the lights go out, I have a pretty good idea there is a power outage. If I'm asleep, I don't want to be waked up to tell me there's a power outage. My alarm clock has it's own backup battery.

So if there's really no way to manually disarm the screecher, will the unit still function if I simply remove the noise-maker from the circuit? IF the noise-maker can NOT be removed without breaking the circuit, could I cover it in a thick glob of epoxy to at least deaden the piecing annoying shriek ? I enjoy being able to hear high frequencies and wish to continue being able to.

Bad call, whoever the idiot was that decided NOT to put an override switch on the unit.
cathudog


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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Feb 10, 2008 12:49 PM   in response to: Mark in response to: Mark
 
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APC AV Black 1kVA S Type Power Conditioner This is the one you have to have to shut off the alarms and it is used for A/V systems sells for 449.00 dollars very nice unit. I use APC on 3 systems and to power my phone and some other equipment and have no problems with the software and the alarms can be turned off and if set up correctly they will not shut down your PC. In my case that is what I want to happen to shut down my equipment properly in the event of a power failure or over voltage. It never fails there is always a glitch in all system and yes I agree there should be a way to turn of the alarms manually.
SaGeUvAgOnY

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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Feb 25, 2008 5:06 PM   in response to: cathudog in response to: cathudog
 
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I feel bad for the people who have trouble comprehending the fact that these UPS's are meant for PC's, NOT AV EQUIPMENT. They are too lazy to install software on their "'puter" and would rather stoop so low as to put a glob of epoxy to cover the speaker. I laugh at "No way am I putting any software I don't need on my 'puter" when this UPS is REALLY meant for a 'puter.

I'll buy an HP printer and I might as well "IN NO WAY" install the drivers. Drivers? PAH! Who needs em? I'd rather chuck the software CD's at birds, and get mad at the printer because it won't cook me breakfast instead of printing pages.

You buy a car for transportation, not to play football with it.

Use the UPS for what it is intended for.
douggee

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Re: Disable beeping without a computer? ES750
Posted: Mar 2, 2008 2:47 AM   in response to: EdH in response to: EdH
 
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All the talk of using the software to control the alarms would really be a mute point if there was a 50 cent switch installed to just turn the dang alarms on or off. I'm using my UPS as a backup to a power recliner/lift chair for a disabled person and to run a low wattage lamp if the power should fail. The beeping is very annoying and in my application the UPS will run the things for several hours.

In the grand scheme of things an inexpensive switch would be a cost-effective solution during the manufacture of a product in this price range. Putting it under the battery cover would eliminate accidental changes since it isn't something you'd be changing on a daily basis. If you want to be notified of power failure turn them on, if not turn them off. And to respond to the person who asked if you'd wouldn't want to be notified of a power failure at night so your alarm would go off at the correct time, buy an alarm with a battery backup for $10. sheesh!
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